रीप्रोडक्टिव साइंसेज़ मेडिकल सेंटर (RSMC), संयुक्त राज्य अमेरिका

Cynthia Gao is extremely rude. She frequently interrupts and belittles others. The fact that she works here makes me question the entire organization.

I had always wished for a son. After turning 45, I thought that dream would never come true. Then, by chance, I found RSMC. With the help of RSMC’s doctors, nursing staff, and service coordinators, I successfully achieved what I had thought was an impossible dream, despite the anxiety and stress throughout the process. What a moving surprise! I am truly grateful to everyone at RSMC. Without your help, I might never have fulfilled this wish and would have grown old with regret. I highly recommend RSMC!

This is the worst facility I have ever visited. Years later, I am still distressed by the incompetence the doctors showed in treating my infertility. There was no coordination of timing—I practically had to design my own treatment plan with almost no help—and they failed to use the medications properly for my retrieval, leaving me without a single usable embryo. You are just a number there. They almost made me give up. If you are looking for a surrogate, this place may be suitable. But if you want your own biological child, stay away. I eventually went to Kindbody, and thankfully I now have a two-year-old daughter.

After two fertility journeys over two years, I successfully welcomed both a daughter and a son. I am very grateful to RSMC for all their assistance both times, which kept me from feeling helpless or anxious along the way. My two experiences allow me to tell others that with courage and a willingness to try, single women can also become mothers. I hope every woman on the path to motherhood has a smooth journey.

Everyone I met at RSMC was genuinely kind and easy to work with. They were always willing to help and patiently explained any questions. Communication was seamless throughout the process. Every step was explained clearly, and I never felt neglected.

Before beginning my journey to fatherhood, I thought “home” was simply a place where people lived together. With RSMC's support and professional assistance, I came to understand that home is where someone waits for you and where someone feels complete because of you. From every conversation and examination to each step toward welcoming our baby, RSMC gave us reassurance, respect, and warmth. The road was not easy, but we felt supported and understood throughout. They helped us truly believe that love can cross distance, methods, and boundaries as long as hearts are connected. Now, as I watch a tiny hand hold mine, I finally understand— Becoming a father does not begin when a child is born. It begins the moment you decide to carry love forward.

My two children are now 2 and 5 years old, and both are here thanks to the RSMC team and Dr. Ho's medical care and support throughout our journey. Without them, we would not have the family we have today. Every day, we still feel fortunate and grateful to have met this group of people. To us, it was more than a clinic; it was the place that helped us achieve a miracle.

I had an embryo transfer last July, and my baby is now six months old. Thank you, Dr. Ho, for helping me fulfill my dream of becoming a mother and have a lovely baby. I also thank the RSMC medical team for their attentive, thoughtful help throughout the transfer process. I plan to return for another transfer next March ☺️

This small clinic is poorly managed, with low morale and serious administrative problems. Avoid it if possible! After I posted, the company replied with a standard template. See for yourself: it is identical to several previous replies to negative reviews. Their excuse is outrageous. Of course I want to remain anonymous because their sales staff pressured me into signing a nonrefundable contract, leaving me no way to reconsider. If I provide more details so they can identify my purchase, how can I trust them not to retaliate or neglect my case? If they do not address this, how can I trust them to make every effort on quality control? It is clear that this company's staff are not enthusiastic about clients. They are simply making money for themselves, while this is my journey to build a family. They truly do not care. Even their repeated use of the same template to answer clients shows this.

In November 2024, I paid Lucina Egg Bank, part of RSMC, $18,700 for eight frozen donor eggs. Their staff told me that if none developed into a usable embryo, they would provide six additional eggs at no cost. I also paid $8,967.5 for laboratory blastocyst culture. Unfortunately, all eight eggs failed, and there was not a single embryo to transfer. I did not even have one opportunity. When I asked about the six free replacement eggs, they said my case did not qualify. Instead, they recommended spending more money on new eggs. This was extremely disappointing and very different from what I expected when I enrolled. After this experience, I began researching independently. I learned that the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) reports much lower IVF success rates for RSMC than I had expected. I also discovered that Lucina Egg Bank was established only a few years ago, rather than having "more than 30 years of experience" as I had been led to believe. Their current Better Business Bureau rating is "D." These facts made me feel misled. My husband and I saved for years to afford IVF. Losing this money and opportunity was devastating financially and emotionally. I became depressed after the experience, but ultimately decided to share my story so others might be more cautious when making such an important decision. This is my personal experience, and I hope it helps others considering this clinic make an informed choice.

I asked a friend with excellent English to help write this one-star review. I would gladly give zero stars if possible. Their documents and website look good, but their staff are not. I had not previously heard of their doctors' reputation, but their website made them appear good, and the data also looked impressive. I have now had a child through their surrogacy service; the child was born in January and became seriously ill, requiring hospitalization. The company's contract denies all responsibility. I sincerely advise against using this company. Their website contains considerable misleading information. For example, a video shows an entire building, but I later discovered the clinic occupies only the ground floor and is very small. Are they intentionally misleading clients? I also suspect some five-star reviews here are fabricated. All their five-star surrogacy reviews were posted a year ago, making one wonder what happened during the past year.

It is an OK customer service experience for me but later on I found out their pricing is way above the guarantees the sales person offered at first Zoom meeting with Kelsi/Jessica. To get a TRULY guaranteed and satisfactory result from surrogacy, you need to pay way more than $140 K! So watch out

Surrogates should stay away from this unethical "agency."

Kind people and easy to work with.

The doctors and nurses were very understanding and patient with all my questions. They made the entire process comfortable and smooth, and I truly felt everyone's warmth and care.

This was my first time in the United States, and the hospital arranged everything through a travel agency, including my visa, accommodation, and flights. When I arrived at the hospital, there was even a Chinese interpreter, which made everything much easier. The hospital itself is large, exceptionally clean, and well organized. The service is first-rate and highly professional. Overall, I would rate it very highly!

This hospital is welcoming to Chinese-speaking patients. My partner and I are from Taiwan. From the beginning, we planned to go directly to the United States to freeze eggs and have a child together, but our limited English initially worried us. We later found that online consultations were available in Chinese, and a Chinese medical interpreter accompanied us at the hospital, which was very reassuring. The hospital also helped arrange flights and visas through a travel agency, as well as a monthly rental apartment, which made the trip very smooth. My wife is now successfully 12 weeks pregnant. Thank you so much. We hope to bring our child back to California one day to revisit the area.

Our baby was finally born this week! As a first-time father, I feel very nervous but also extremely excited. Looking back on the entire process, we were truly fortunate and everything went very smoothly! About a year and a half ago, I learned about RSMC online. At first I had some doubts about the online information, so I specifically checked reviews from hospitals in Taiwan. RSMC's staff responded quickly and in detail, which reassured me. After deciding to fly to the United States to visit in person, I found that this was indeed the large hospital I wanted, so I confidently began this journey. During this time, I was very grateful for the support and companionship of Jenny, Cindy, and my client services manager Kelly. Their professionalism and care gave me great peace of mind. Dr. Harari in particular, your medical expertise and patience made the entire process smooth and pleasant. I am already looking forward to a second child and will certainly ask for your help again in giving my baby a sibling. Thank you, RSMC, for making my dream of a family come true. I look forward to working with you again!

I had almost given up because my previous hospital took an extremely long time and could not match us with a surrogate. Then a friend who had already succeeded introduced us here, and they found one in just two weeks. They were very efficient, there were many good profiles to choose from, and the surrogate's qualifications were also good. Recommended.

A relative living in California recommended this hospital to me. It has two well-known local branches, one in Irvine and one in San Diego. The San Diego branch has a multilingual team dedicated to serving Asian patients, so I chose San Diego. Throughout the egg-freezing treatment, the staff explained everything very carefully and reminded me of all the precautions I needed to take. Overall, the medical experience was very good and the process went smoothly. After the procedure, staff members checked on me and took me by wheelchair to my ride. The entire warm and attentive service experience was very thoughtful. Thank you!

Our baby was born this week, and we are truly overjoyed! We were very hesitant when choosing a hospital because there was so much information and so many options online. But on our first visit, we found the hospital larger than expected, the medical staff highly professional in their responses, and the service very thoughtful, so we decided to choose this hospital to fulfill a dream we had planned for several years. As non-native English speakers, it was extremely helpful that the hospital provided dedicated medical interpreters who ensured we fully understood the doctor's opinions throughout the process. Before our departure, a partner travel agency also helped arrange flights, accommodation, and visas, making everything much easier. They could even arrange sightseeing, since San Diego is also a famous vacation destination, which helped us feel less anxious throughout the process. Having a child has made our home so much livelier. This is the happy family life we had imagined for years. Thank you to everyone who helped us along the way.

My very busy work schedule made finding a fertility provider extremely difficult. The RSMC team was highly professional, responded quickly to my questions, and created a personalized plan that fit my schedule. I barely had to worry about anything throughout the process, and my child has now been born healthy. Thank you, RSMC, for your excellent service. I am deeply satisfied with your professionalism.

RSMC's consultants were truly professional. They patiently answered our questions throughout the process and helped us plan every step. Their approach and arrangements gave us great peace of mind. The service staff were very attentive. We are also grateful to Dr. Harari, who helped us. He is warm and kind, and from our first meeting I decided to seek his help. We ultimately had a positive outcome. Thank you very much!

I run a startup, so I do not have much time. RSMC truly understood that. They streamlined everything for me and made sure the entire process was quick yet thorough. Honestly, I did not expect to find a clinic that could accommodate my hectic schedule, but RSMC did. We are now only weeks away from welcoming our new baby, and I am very grateful. If you are a busy entrepreneur like me, trust me: RSMC is where you want to go.

I feel fortunate to have found Dr. Ho at age 40. My periods were irregular, and my husband and I had tried unsuccessfully for years. We finally sought treatment at RSMC. Dr. Ho's professionalism and attention to detail gave me confidence and hope. He also guided me in preparing my body before treatment. After two IVF cycles, PGS identified a healthy embryo. I am now successfully pregnant and looking forward to our baby's arrival. Again, I thank Dr. Ho and the entire RSMC team for their strong support.

My experience at RSMC exceeded my expectations. Throughout treatment, Dr. Ho was highly professional and took time to explain every step. This gave me great confidence and genuinely helped reduce my anxiety. The hospital itself is very clean and well organized. After the procedure, they also provided a wheelchair and a staff member to care for me, so even though I was there alone, I did not feel lonely or afraid.

We came to RSMC for help from Dr.Ho after seeing an introduction by Bunny Wolf. The doctor was very kind and always smiling. Although he was clearly very busy, I admired his sincerity and professionalism. During our consultations, he patiently explained every detail. We succeeded smoothly, and we hope the doctor can visit Taiwan in the future. We will definitely bring our baby to meet him!

The director is highly reliable, explains every step carefully, and provides a welcoming environment. Special thanks to my account manager, who handled many matters very well. The advice tailored to my circumstances was also helpful, and having Chinese-speaking staff at the clinic was reassuring.

I was delighted to serve as a surrogate on 3 separate reproductive journeys, and each time I was grateful to have RSMC as my monitoring clinic. The environment is very calm and pleasant. Both the front-office and clinical staff are kind, friendly, caring, and organized. I was seen by several of their doctors, all of whom made me feel very comfortable and safe. It is an outstanding clinic, and I had many wonderful experiences there. I would recommend it without hesitation to anyone seeking a reproductive care team! 🤗

Thank you to the staff for their attentive care. We successfully completed our first medical trip. Before departure, the travel agency working with the hospital arranged our flights, accommodation, and visas, saving us a great deal of time despite our busy schedules. There are many lively shopping centers and attractions near the hospital, so we could also relax after our visits. The hospital provided friendly Chinese interpreters, which made us feel reassured and removed any concern about language barriers. Special thanks to Cindy, Jenny, and Dr.Harari for their continued help. Being able to ask questions at any time gave us great peace of mind. Thanks to the staff for their attentive care. We successfully completed our first medical journey. Before departure, the travel agency coordinated with the hospital to handle our flights, accommodation, and visas, saving us a lot of time despite our busy schedules. There are many bustling malls and attractions near the hospital, so we could relax and enjoy ourselves after our visits. The hospital also provided friendly Chinese interpreters, which made us feel very reassured. We didn't have to worry about language barriers. Special thanks to Cindy, Jenny, and Dr. Harari for their continuous help. It was very comforting to know we could always ask questions.

My wife and I wish we could give RSMC 10 stars! Words cannot express how grateful we are to Dr. Ho and his team. Dr. Ho exceeded our expectations and gave us great confidence. He tailored the treatment to our situation and paid meticulous attention to detail throughout the cycle. Before finding him, we had undergone IVF twice at other clinics without ideal results and decided to try one final time. The hospital environment is pleasant, appointments are efficient, and the nurses are very friendly. They cared deeply about our condition, helping us relax and making the IVF process much less frightening. Today, my wife is 12 weeks pregnant! We are delighted to share this wonderful news and are extremely satisfied with our treatment at RSMC. Special thanks to everyone who helped us along the way. Thank you, RSMC!

This facility is wonderful and truly cares about its clients. I am very happy to be working with this team. As a first-time surrogate, I was initially very nervous. This journey has not been easy for me, but every staff member has been caring, knowledgeable, and extremely helpful in guiding me through each step. I cannot wait to bring new joy and a new family member to my intended parents. I truly hope everything goes well in the next cycle. Thank you for being such an excellent team and for caring for every gestational carrier and intended parent. :)

I am currently on my first journey as a surrogate, and everything has been excellent so far. I appreciate their consistent communication, and my case manager always checks on me to make sure I am doing well. I would definitely recommend this place.

A member of my wife's family had long wanted to visit a place like this and finally found the courage, so we accompanied her to the facility as support. I felt that everything was very professional, from the initial guidance and introduction to the services to the doctor's interview and consultation. Although this is a particularly high-risk field, they answered all our questions about the contract and procedure kindly and in detail. They were also highly responsive regarding language needs, so I think it is a very good place.

Warm, friendly service 🥰

I am very glad I chose to be a surrogate with RSMC. They respond promptly to any questions I may have. I have had two of the most rewarding experiences with this clinic and plan to do it again and again until I can no longer do so.

I am a surrogate and am happy to have the opportunity to help others who want children. This time, I helped a gay couple from Hong Kong. After our first video call, we discussed our ideas and I found that they were both wonderful people, so we decided to work together. Later, I sent them ultrasound images from prenatal checkups through the customer service manager, and they were always extremely excited. Best of all, I received their New Year card and a small gift, which warmed my heart. The baby has now been born healthy, and they came to the hospital with flowers to collect the baby. It was my first time meeting the couple in person, but it felt as though we had known each other for a long time. This surrogacy journey was very comfortable, and I hope to have the opportunity for another wonderful journey like it in the future.

I have been a surrogate with this company more than once or twice; this will be my fourth time, and I have had only positive experiences. They go above and beyond for these families and their surrogates. I truly cannot and will not go anywhere else. At the beginning of my surrogacy journey, I had a wonderful experience with Sheena and the rest of the team, and words cannot express my gratitude. If you are interested in surrogacy, this is always the company to choose!

If you want to start a family, I recommend coming here. Because there was little information online, I worried about being scammed and hesitated for a long time. However, staff who spoke Japanese and English arranged a medical examination and a free consultation with the American director, which made me feel safe. It was my first time in the United States and my English was not very good, but I was treated courteously, everything went smoothly, and I was able to fulfill my wish. The area around the hospital is safe, with many shopping centers and pleasant weather, so it felt like a trip.

We are very grateful to Dr. He for making our dream come true. After three miscarriages, we had almost given up on having a complete family, but thanks to two successful IVF cycles with Dr. He, we now have two beautiful babies. Dr. He is an amazing communicator; he clarified all our questions and provided incredible care and support throughout this difficult process. Overall, it was a positive experience, and we are very grateful to the RSMC team. Highly recommended!

From our initial consultation in Taiwan, we felt both the professionalism and warmth of the team. The consultant explained the entire process and arranged the necessary tests. We received reminders about precautions before egg retrieval and embryo transfer and which supplements to take in advance. Their around-the-clock service gave us tremendous support and assistance. They patiently answered all our questions and carefully arranged each step. Even the online services were reassuring. When it was time to travel to the United States, the nursing staff were also very friendly and professional and constantly checked on our condition. A Chinese interpreter accompanied us on site, allowing us to communicate smoothly with the doctor. The travel agency they work with helped us find flights and accommodation in advance, saving us considerable effort. The hospital environment also impressed us. I initially thought it would be small, but it was extremely large. In addition to congratulatory banners in Chinese, there were many family photos from other couples. The hospital's overall atmosphere was very comfortable. We especially thank our attending physician, Dr. Ho, for his professional judgment. He explained every step in detail and offered recommendations based on our needs, giving us confidence in the future. We first learned about RSMC through the Taiwanese YouTubers Rabbit & Wolf. Our baby now has a heartbeat, and our entire family is delighted. We hope everything goes smoothly and thank you all. From our initial consultation in Taiwan, we felt both the professionalism and warmth of the team. The consultant explained the entire process, arranged all necessary tests, and provided reminders about what to pay attention to before egg retrieval and embryo transfer, including which supplements to take. Their around-the-clock service was a huge support, answering all our questions patiently and carefully planning every step. Even the online services were reassuring. When it came time to travel to the US, the nursing staff were incredibly friendly and professional, always checking on us. There was also a Chinese translator on-site, making communication with the doctors seamless. The travel agency they work with helped us find flights and accommodation, saving us a lot of effort. The hospital environment left a strong impression. I initially thought it would be small, but it turned out to be quite large. There were banners in Chinese and many family photos from other couples. The overall atmosphere of the hospital was very comfortable. We especially want to thank our primary doctor, Dr. Ho, for his professional judgment. He explained each step in detail and provided suggestions based on our needs, giving us confidence for the future. We first learned about RSMC from the Taiwanese YouTuber, Rabbit & Wolf. Now our baby has a heartbeat, and the whole family is overjoyed. We hope everything goes smoothly and thank you all so much.

I am a cancer patient and need long-term medication to control my condition, so my doctor advised me to pursue my family-building plans early. Before beginning targeted therapy, I froze eggs and created embryos. Because my husband and I were both nearly 40 and planned to have a child through surrogacy, the embryos needed PGS genetic screening. My doctor told me that because I had few embryos, PGS could result in none remaining, but after discussing it, my husband and I decided to try. We had genetic screening at a hospital in Taiwan, and ultimately only one embryo was completely normal. When we received the news, we were very nervous and scheduled an online meeting with RSMC's director, Dr. Harari. He told us the estimated success rate and explained that medical care can never guarantee 100% success, but his team would do its best to help us succeed. After fully understanding these risks, we hesitated for some time because all our information came from the internet and we did not know which hospital was especially good. RSMC had been recommended by a friend who succeeded there, but I had only one embryo, and our situations differed. During our communication with the RSMC team, however, I sensed their professionalism. I greatly appreciated that they did not lie and told me only the reality. I finally told my husband that we should try with them. If it succeeded, heaven intended us to have this child; if it failed, I would accept reality and focus on treating my illness. To pursue this dream, we pooled our savings, since this was not a small amount. We paused for a while because of financial difficulties, but the RSMC team continued helping us and handled matters flexibly. In the end, our surrogate became pregnant after the first transfer! I could hardly believe this miracle. It truly was a miracle to me, but I remained worried because the baby still had nine months before birth. During that time, a manager provided us with weekly reports in Chinese and sent greetings to our surrogate during holidays. We were also fortunate to find a wonderful surrogate. Through the client services manager, she often sent ultrasound images of the baby, helping ease my regret that cancer prevented me from carrying the pregnancy myself. At the beginning of this month, my child was finally born safely. We went to the United States to bring her home and were incredibly happy and moved. Thinking back to how lost my husband and I felt a year and a half ago, I am truly grateful that my friend introduced me to RSMC. I also thank my doctor and all the nurses and consultants who helped me along the way. With this child, I will face future treatment even more actively and take good care of her. I hope I can bring her back to California to visit in the future.

This is a scam. As soon as you pay, they begin a series of fraudulent charges. This is a fraud facility. Patients believe the package covers service from start to finish because they sell it as a one-stop service. In reality, the package is designed to collect the full payment upfront so they can exploit you. Their fraudulent model is to cut corners within a prepaid package. RSMC sells the treatment in a bundle which cons you may finish the treatment in this one-stop service facility. What they want is the full payment. Cutting corners after the payment is the business model. To save costs, they provide neither pain medication nor medication for ascites during egg retrieval, despite collecting a 5,000 medication fee in advance. They would rather let patients develop ascites than spend a few dollars. This hospital does not provide painkillers and ascites medicine for egg retrieval surgery. The doctor did not perform routine examinations included in the paid package. Using ‘flexible’ medical information—telling some patients hysteroscopy reports are valid for three months and others six months—they misled patients into paying the U.S. clinic for hysteroscopy performed in Taiwan. Dr. Minh N. Ho did not perform the hysteroscope examination on the medical bill. The doctor does not read medical records. After both parties sign the contract, they provide ‘medical instructions’ that actually shift responsibility for interpreting the records to Taiwanese doctors and the patient. Administrative personnel issue medical invitation letters bearing the doctor's stamp without the doctor reviewing the reports. All medical guidance is given by nonmedical personnel. Dr. Minh N. Ho sent an invitation letter. Accepting a patient who is not qualified for an IVF cycle. The doctor did not follow the contract. The contract states that treatment may be terminated for physical reasons, such as follicles being unable to continue growing. This should mean that a doctor may terminate treatment only for a condition that current medicine cannot address. In practice, however, treatment was terminated because of a polyp, and a full refund was refused. A polyp can simply be removed before transfer and is not medically untreatable. Given the earlier dispute over fraudulent package content and shifting responsibility internationally, terminating treatment at this point was clearly not for medical reasons. Dr. Minh N. Ho was in breach of contract. He stopped the treatment and claimed it was a “medical issue”. - a uterine polyp that existed before he accepted the patient. - The Chinese contract does not state the physician has the right to terminate treatment. The hospital is divided into several departments, and the initial contacts differ from the people who provide care. It operates like an intermediary, with no management and no one responsible for patient rights. They do not perform tests included in the contract, do not provide medication unless patients actively request it, accept patients and then refuse to treat them, and issue documents with doctors' signatures that the doctors never reviewed. In practice, it is a highly organized transnational fraud group. CDC data show that this facility's transfer success rate is 30% for patients under 35 and 20% for patients over 35. The success rate for this facility is 30% for age 35, according to the CDC. During consultation, they claim the process requires one stay for egg retrieval and one stay for transfer. Such extreme exaggeration is itself fraudulent and inconsistent with CDC data. Dr. Minh N. Ho claims the treatment could be done in one cycle. – Very unlikely according to CDC. They claim the success rate for transfer – 90% on the site  – 85% from David Harari – This is just laughable. ‘The Society for Assisted Reproductive Technology, SART, collects and reports its member clinics' IVF success rates in a comprehensive database, allowing individuals and couples to find qualified fertility treatment clinics. Of 490 clinics, 450 belong to SART’: RSMC is an exception. It is not a SART member yet displays the SART logo on its English website, misrepresenting itself. RSMC is not a member of SART (Society for Assisted Reproductive Technology). They put a SART logo on their site – scammers do scams. The management team and hospital entity have been sued in more than ten cases. The hospital and the director are involved in multiple lawsuits below. Personal injury/Tort/Fraud/Malpractice/Harassment/Wrongful termination/Other complaint This entire team is unethical. An employee-review website states that a doctor at this hospital once had a medical license revoked, indicating serious deficiencies in medical practice. Director David Harari is the alleged mastermind of the fraud, involving personal injury, several fraud cases, and several harassment cases, with three years of probation prohibiting him from supervising physician assistants. Search RSMC reviews: David Harari claimed during consultation that the success rate for surrogate transfers was 85%, another highly inaccurate statement. THREE YEARS PROBATION WITH VARIOUS TERMS AND CONDITIONS. DURING PROBATION, DR. HARARI IS PROHIBITED FROM SUPERVISING PHYSICAN ASSISTANTS Minh N. Ho is central to the alleged fraud: he profits by selling his image as a doctor. In practice, he does not read medical reports, does not provide medical advice, and does not even prescribe medication, meaning he makes no diagnosis. Put plainly, he only performs ultrasounds—the only part patients directly see is performed by a doctor. Everything is deceptive and the fraud is systematic. Targeting foreigners who face information asymmetry and operating fraud, the hospital, and overseas IVF as a corporate business, with truth mixed with falsehood, may be only the tip of the iceberg in overseas IVF fraud. The alleged fraud begins during consultation, when they provide false success rates and a false process. The physician assistant's role is to make empty promises for Minh N. Ho during consultation, claiming the package's hysteroscopy will be performed in the United States, while later misleading patients into having it done in Taiwan. David Harari's alleged fraud, intimidation, and harm are all reflected in the approach to medical care. In this allegedly fraudulent IVF operation, they collectively seek to exclude doctors from medical care so they can accept the greatest number of patients and maximize profit. When they send doctors and the director out to conduct consultations, patients should question whether those doctors could still participate in actual care. Medical care requires medical expertise; without it, unexpected failures occur. This is allegedly intentional because the only competent doctor never planned to spend time providing care. If you are not vigilant, you will be deceived. When doctors themselves deceive patients, ordinary people's medical knowledge cannot compete with licensed professionals. David Harari and Minh N. Ho have integrity issues. David Harari was officially prohibited from supervising physician assistants, yet now, as director, supervises the entire medical team. For money, Minh N. Ho accepts patients who do not meet transfer criteria from the outset. These two doctors use their medical expertise to deceive people, allowing the entire hospital to profit. If you trust what they say during the preliminary consultation, you are already being deceived. No matter how polished their image and sales techniques are, patients should remember that CDC data indicate 3–5 trips to the United States are needed to complete one successful transfer cycle. Do not trust their ‘professional’ interpretation. Their unwillingness to discuss possible treatment outcomes using actual success rates shows that they are selling something whose true nature cannot be disclosed. RSMC claims a false treatment process: everything from success rates to the travel process is fabricated. Doctors also do not participate in care, beyond the minimum actions visible to patients. They exploit legal loopholes, target foreign patients unable to defend their rights, and are gradually building an international fraud empire. The truth behind welcoming overseas IVF patients is that these patients are easy to deceive and control and even less able to defend their rights in the United States—perfect pigs on a production line. RSMC aims for foreigners – hopeless pigs on the streamline sent to the butcher.